What is Kerry talking about here? Everybody and their dog remembers Samurai. You cant turn a corner in NC without some gonk playing a Samurai song on their guitar.
What is Kerry talking about here? Everybody and their dog remembers Samurai. You cant turn a corner in NC without some gonk playing a Samurai song on their guitar.
Their vinyl are littered all over the city as well, not to mention their songs are still being played on the radio.
Iron_jake_of_irony
In Kerry’s world they are gone. In his world of solitude, drinks and the typical man in the mansion of a guy who is never on the streets and talks to the fans. Blind for what was and not for what is. Well, that’s my rant on the guy.
thefx37
I think he means in the context of Johnny’s attack on Arasaka. People may remember the band but not for what Johnny wanted to be known for or their political message.
50 years passed and obviously at the point when this conversation takes place, Arasaka has been able to resign Silverhand to nothing more than a footnote in oral history.
Subject_Proof_6282
Most people that play the Samurai songs on the street are playing the ones that Kerry managed to salvage and keep playing all these years.
That’s why you often find 2 versions of the same song, like Chippin’ In for example.
Ikkaan42
Remember that Kerry is depressive. From his dark point of view, everything is bleak and the good times are gone. Finishing his loose ends with Johnny cuts this some slack and helps. Its all about perspective.
Mary_Ellen_Katz
I think it’s akin to someone dropping the name of an older band, like Aerosmith, or Def Leopard. The folks might have heard of them, or known that Kerry (and by extension Johnny) originated from the same Band (Samurai) before they each went Solo. There’s just not a single thing the average gonk can say about the band other than maybe a song they like.
But the band itself was around very little compared to the legacy of each of these characters. Kerry is a big time star now, and Johnny went from solo artist to operative in the crescendo of the 4th corporate war- blamed for the nuke that went off.
aclark210
Night City is unique. I think Kerry is saying beyond NC the world as a whole doesn’t remember samurai. And even in the city, there’s a large portion of people u can hear with flavor dialogue that barely remember the band exists. Even when they do remember, how many actually remember samurai? Like the real samurai, that was a borderline terrorist group cuz of how anti corp they were? One dude?
alecpiper
I always wondered about that. Johnny always says that Samurai made absolutely no money and Kerry acts like samurai was totally forgotten, yet both Kerry and Denny are incredibly rich and samurai’s music is still being played nearly 60 years later
cha0sb1ade
Half the clothes in the city have their logos on them, feels like, and there’s one radio station that plays them more often than any band. In a way it feels like Kerry has convinced himself of this because he wants to feel like his solo career surpassed Samurai, and he’s mostly sitting in his big house, detached from culture enough not to notice Samurai’s staying power, or resurgence, of whatever’s going on. But Silverhand also says stuff that suggests he think it would be hard to even find recordings. Feels like the writers never really came together on Samurai’s place in the culture in 2077.
Cassereddit
I think everyone in Cyberpunk remembers Samurai the way everyone these days remembers the Beatles.
Influential for sure but who actively talks about the Beatles regularly these days?
Striking_Land_8879
i really think this is Dev oversight like honestly. the band broke up 70 years ago, and the vendor we meet clearly sells his memorabilia for chump change next to a junk seller
i don’t think anybody really remembers Samurai, but the game loves to scatter clutter around. to me, the vinyls are like those repetitive shards you see everywhere
DianoiaNoesis71879
lol so true. There does seem to be a constant logic disconnect in Cyberpunk, for instance the sushi spot that was once a night club states no one listens to Samurai yet the records are all over night city.
Commercial-Store354
That’s because he hardly leaves his house.
Tasty_Commercial6527
The game very clearly can’t make up it’s mind on if samurai was a niche underground band or a worldwide fenomenon and just flip flops between the two
Middcore
On the whole, it must be said that the game is weirdly inconsistent about just how big Samurai was and how well-remembered they are 50 years later.
rodbrs
Remember that Kerry is petty, extremely self-centered, craves attention & admiration, and had the hots for Johnny. So, he both idolized and competed with Johnny. This line is just him downplaying the success of Johnny’s band compared to his own.
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Their vinyl are littered all over the city as well, not to mention their songs are still being played on the radio.
In Kerry’s world they are gone. In his world of solitude, drinks and the typical man in the mansion of a guy who is never on the streets and talks to the fans. Blind for what was and not for what is. Well, that’s my rant on the guy.
I think he means in the context of Johnny’s attack on Arasaka. People may remember the band but not for what Johnny wanted to be known for or their political message.
50 years passed and obviously at the point when this conversation takes place, Arasaka has been able to resign Silverhand to nothing more than a footnote in oral history.
Most people that play the Samurai songs on the street are playing the ones that Kerry managed to salvage and keep playing all these years.
That’s why you often find 2 versions of the same song, like Chippin’ In for example.
Remember that Kerry is depressive. From his dark point of view, everything is bleak and the good times are gone. Finishing his loose ends with Johnny cuts this some slack and helps. Its all about perspective.
I think it’s akin to someone dropping the name of an older band, like Aerosmith, or Def Leopard. The folks might have heard of them, or known that Kerry (and by extension Johnny) originated from the same Band (Samurai) before they each went Solo. There’s just not a single thing the average gonk can say about the band other than maybe a song they like.
But the band itself was around very little compared to the legacy of each of these characters. Kerry is a big time star now, and Johnny went from solo artist to operative in the crescendo of the 4th corporate war- blamed for the nuke that went off.
Night City is unique. I think Kerry is saying beyond NC the world as a whole doesn’t remember samurai. And even in the city, there’s a large portion of people u can hear with flavor dialogue that barely remember the band exists. Even when they do remember, how many actually remember samurai? Like the real samurai, that was a borderline terrorist group cuz of how anti corp they were? One dude?
I always wondered about that. Johnny always says that Samurai made absolutely no money and Kerry acts like samurai was totally forgotten, yet both Kerry and Denny are incredibly rich and samurai’s music is still being played nearly 60 years later
Half the clothes in the city have their logos on them, feels like, and there’s one radio station that plays them more often than any band. In a way it feels like Kerry has convinced himself of this because he wants to feel like his solo career surpassed Samurai, and he’s mostly sitting in his big house, detached from culture enough not to notice Samurai’s staying power, or resurgence, of whatever’s going on. But Silverhand also says stuff that suggests he think it would be hard to even find recordings. Feels like the writers never really came together on Samurai’s place in the culture in 2077.
I think everyone in Cyberpunk remembers Samurai the way everyone these days remembers the Beatles.
Influential for sure but who actively talks about the Beatles regularly these days?
i really think this is Dev oversight like honestly. the band broke up 70 years ago, and the vendor we meet clearly sells his memorabilia for chump change next to a junk seller
i don’t think anybody really remembers Samurai, but the game loves to scatter clutter around. to me, the vinyls are like those repetitive shards you see everywhere
lol so true. There does seem to be a constant logic disconnect in Cyberpunk, for instance the sushi spot that was once a night club states no one listens to Samurai yet the records are all over night city.
That’s because he hardly leaves his house.
The game very clearly can’t make up it’s mind on if samurai was a niche underground band or a worldwide fenomenon and just flip flops between the two
On the whole, it must be said that the game is weirdly inconsistent about just how big Samurai was and how well-remembered they are 50 years later.
Remember that Kerry is petty, extremely self-centered, craves attention & admiration, and had the hots for Johnny. So, he both idolized and competed with Johnny.
This line is just him downplaying the success of Johnny’s band compared to his own.