I fucking hate that “you’ll own nothing and you’ll like it” slogan that seems to encompass this type of thing.
So It makes me feel like a Hypocrite because I’m adamant about not supporting those systems, to really realize that Steam has always been that type of system.
this planet just keeps giving me reason to hate every bit of it…..why does shit have to be like this?
why can’t I just have my stuff and enjoy it without worry of BS like this?
krydx
So if I install the game and copy game files to another folder I can’t launch it without Steam? I’m pretty sure for most games it’s easy enough to “clean them up” from Steam commands and launch offline anyway.
BigPandaCloud
When i pirate games, I technically don’t steal them. I am just borrowing the license.
slash9492
GOG ftw 🙌
Martnoderyo
Late 90s/Early2000s Everyone sailed the seas.
After that Steam became the giant it is now and everyone was fine because prices where fair and there where actually titles playable offline.
Now Everyone sailing the seas?
It’s not like Steam is the bad guy here I believe. It’s just a Platform to sell Games. Devs / The People in Power should be held accountable. It’s still bs and I think EU is going in the right direction forcing developers to make Games playable offline when they shut these games down.
Deep_Blue_15
It will be a big shitshow once some Developers and Publishers start taking away this “License” and people can no longer play the games they paid for. Only a matter of time until this starts happening.
Sa7aSa7a
I take umbrage with this statement “they’re really just renting access to it, not owning it like before”. You weren’t purchasing it before either. You were purchasing a license to use it. Just like now. They just couldn’t revoke it before.Â
Meekin93
![gif](giphy|FGbeYTiFyLYmQ|downsized)
Love Steam and I know they had to update the terms but for some games you should just……
PumpkinSpriteLatte
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!! /s
SirHomoLiberus
Renting digital media for 69.99 per piece is quite expensive ngl
PM-Me-your-dank-meme
All those years of just clicking “agree”.
Auroku222
U will own nothing aaaaand be happyyyt 🎶🎶
canadianwhitemagic
If steam took all my games, I’d survive. I still have my Command and Conquer First Decade, Age of Empires 2 + Expansion, CIV 5, Star Trek Legacy, Star Trek Armada, Star Trek Armada II cds. I also have multiple mods for each Star Trek game. They all work and I have ISO’s too. At least i would never need more GPU power going forward.
W1cH099
Yeah I don’t think I will be buying many more games from here on out. Anyone wants to join my ship and sail the seas?
Luckys0474
Arrr! you Peter Sarsgaard?
Mannit578
You never did from the start it was like this, besides psychical and gog, having the actual installer for single players is the only real type of ownership that can compare to physical media that especially if it’s a Sp and offline game
Voltek99
I purchase games on steam that don’t have replay value to me, and purchase physical copies on console that do have replay value.
CaptainMGTOW
So if I rent their games, then they should hold unto my money until they remove the game and when they do, I expect them to return my money also.
0verlyManlyMan
Can I play my games anytime I want on any computer with my saved games intact? If yes, the rest matters not.
Omer-Ash
That’s common sense. Why are some people surprised? Am I missing something here?
minegen88
Steam: You don’t own the games you buy
…….
Ubisoft: You don’t own the games you buy
DAMN YOU UBISOFT!!!
renaneduard0
I would pay 20 bucks monthly to Steam and they let me “borrow” any game from their store. Then i think it would be a fair transaction.
Zbawg420
Thats okay because theres always a good samaritan who will upload a cracked version of a game for all to enjoy
Annual_Letter1636
Everything digital you “buy” is not yours
Dark_Matter_EU
Technically you also don’t own books or DVDs or physical games, you own a license to use and resell them.
kentukky
Despite Steam being the best game store on PC, try to switch to GOG whenever you can. There are offline installers, no DRM and other simple things, that let you “own” and archive your games.
NameIess_PIayer
Does it surprise anyone? With physical games now requiring internet connection for patches or some of them containing activation keys instead of discs, and with consoles pushing for discless versions – pirating has always been the only way to actually own the game.
Hirmetrium
For the absolute longest time I resisted steam and bought physical media because of this.
Then the orange box happened, and over time more and more games stopped being without steam, and moved to just CDs and CD Keys, then CD Keys alone, and it was pointless to resist it further, eventually dropping my disk drive all together (since cases were simply not designed to have them).
Seems that it’s been a very rude reminder between The Crew, Concord, the pulling of Hotline Miami 2 and now this ruling that nobody actually owns games, they own the license. Glad to see it sink in finally, but it’s too late.
Valve long foresaw this day, and promised to ensure games folks purchase are available for them forever, have offline access if Steam went down, etc. I wonder if they will recommit to that or start folding to publisher demands.
arsonist_firefighter
Completely fine
Vlad_T
GOG drm-free star is rising.
coffeefuelledtechie
It’s a bit like now when you buy a physical game. The disk is just a way to download it from a server and kinda acts like your licence. It’s effectively worthless buying a physical media game because even if you want to install it, if those servers are off, then you’ve just bought an expensive DVD
TomiMan7
At this point im not even gonna feel bad if i pirate anything….
sendnukes_
People in reddit acting like this actually changed anything, it’s literally just a line of text, everything they can do to you now they already could before and 99% of steam users won’t ever get affected by this in any meaningful way.
Nowhereman50
So what the fuck is my money good for then?
Kranoath
Eventually Valve, like everyone else will become evil and corrupt like the rest. Enjoy it while you can.
furykai
Back to buying hard copy game.
BurntWhiteRice
Were folks actually deluded enough to think they somehow owned the digital games they purchased?
Uncle-Cake
In 2024 this shouldn’t be shocking to anyone. That’s how software has always worked.
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Didn’t everyone already know this?
Gungan
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I fucking hate that “you’ll own nothing and you’ll like it” slogan that seems to encompass this type of thing.
So It makes me feel like a Hypocrite because I’m adamant about not supporting those systems, to really realize that Steam has always been that type of system.
this planet just keeps giving me reason to hate every bit of it…..why does shit have to be like this?
why can’t I just have my stuff and enjoy it without worry of BS like this?
So if I install the game and copy game files to another folder I can’t launch it without Steam? I’m pretty sure for most games it’s easy enough to “clean them up” from Steam commands and launch offline anyway.
When i pirate games, I technically don’t steal them. I am just borrowing the license.
GOG ftw 🙌
Late 90s/Early2000s
Everyone sailed the seas.
After that Steam became the giant it is now and everyone was fine because prices where fair and there where actually titles playable offline.
Now
Everyone sailing the seas?
It’s not like Steam is the bad guy here I believe. It’s just a Platform to sell Games.
Devs / The People in Power should be held accountable.
It’s still bs and I think EU is going in the right direction forcing developers to make Games playable offline when they shut these games down.
It will be a big shitshow once some Developers and Publishers start taking away this “License” and people can no longer play the games they paid for. Only a matter of time until this starts happening.
I take umbrage with this statement “they’re really just renting access to it, not owning it like before”. You weren’t purchasing it before either. You were purchasing a license to use it. Just like now. They just couldn’t revoke it before.Â
![gif](giphy|FGbeYTiFyLYmQ|downsized)
Love Steam and I know they had to update the terms but for some games you should just……
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!! /s
Renting digital media for 69.99 per piece is quite expensive ngl
All those years of just clicking “agree”.
U will own nothing aaaaand be happyyyt 🎶🎶
If steam took all my games, I’d survive. I still have my Command and Conquer First Decade, Age of Empires 2 + Expansion, CIV 5, Star Trek Legacy, Star Trek Armada, Star Trek Armada II cds. I also have multiple mods for each Star Trek game. They all work and I have ISO’s too. At least i would never need more GPU power going forward.
Yeah I don’t think I will be buying many more games from here on out. Anyone wants to join my ship and sail the seas?
Arrr! you Peter Sarsgaard?
You never did from the start it was like this, besides psychical and gog, having the actual installer for single players is the only real type of ownership that can compare to physical media that especially if it’s a
Sp and offline game
I purchase games on steam that don’t have replay value to me, and purchase physical copies on console that do have replay value.
So if I rent their games, then they should hold unto my money until they remove the game and when they do, I expect them to return my money also.
Can I play my games anytime I want on any computer with my saved games intact?
If yes, the rest matters not.
That’s common sense. Why are some people surprised? Am I missing something here?
Steam: You don’t own the games you buy
…….
Ubisoft: You don’t own the games you buy
DAMN YOU UBISOFT!!!
I would pay 20 bucks monthly to Steam and they let me “borrow” any game from their store. Then i think it would be a fair transaction.
Thats okay because theres always a good samaritan who will upload a cracked version of a game for all to enjoy
Everything digital you “buy” is not yours
Technically you also don’t own books or DVDs or physical games, you own a license to use and resell them.
Despite Steam being the best game store on PC, try to switch to GOG whenever you can. There are offline installers, no DRM and other simple things, that let you “own” and archive your games.
Does it surprise anyone? With physical games now requiring internet connection for patches or some of them containing activation keys instead of discs, and with consoles pushing for discless versions – pirating has always been the only way to actually own the game.
For the absolute longest time I resisted steam and bought physical media because of this.
Then the orange box happened, and over time more and more games stopped being without steam, and moved to just CDs and CD Keys, then CD Keys alone, and it was pointless to resist it further, eventually dropping my disk drive all together (since cases were simply not designed to have them).
Seems that it’s been a very rude reminder between The Crew, Concord, the pulling of Hotline Miami 2 and now this ruling that nobody actually owns games, they own the license. Glad to see it sink in finally, but it’s too late.
Valve long foresaw this day, and promised to ensure games folks purchase are available for them forever, have offline access if Steam went down, etc. I wonder if they will recommit to that or start folding to publisher demands.
Completely fine
GOG drm-free star is rising.
It’s a bit like now when you buy a physical game. The disk is just a way to download it from a server and kinda acts like your licence. It’s effectively worthless buying a physical media game because even if you want to install it, if those servers are off, then you’ve just bought an expensive DVD
At this point im not even gonna feel bad if i pirate anything….
People in reddit acting like this actually changed anything, it’s literally just a line of text, everything they can do to you now they already could before and 99% of steam users won’t ever get affected by this in any meaningful way.
So what the fuck is my money good for then?
Eventually Valve, like everyone else will become evil and corrupt like the rest. Enjoy it while you can.
Back to buying hard copy game.
Were folks actually deluded enough to think they somehow owned the digital games they purchased?
In 2024 this shouldn’t be shocking to anyone. That’s how software has always worked.