how do they keep flopping mid range cards every year?
LastRedshirt
Same with AMD, sadly.
LoliconYaro
They cracked the code post mining craze, they being gpu makers, why sell more for less when you can sell less for more
aberroco
Since they practically moved model names by +10 by introducing xx90 and stopping making xx50, it would be more fair to compare 1080 (not Ti, btw, Ti complicates comparison a lot) to 4070. And that gives 73% increase in performance:
But yeah, for the price of 600$ vs 300$ of 1060 (both prices are from NVidia and on release).
Additional-Ad-7313
And yet I still see hundreds of 4060 builds, that’s depressing
JaggedMetalOs
Nvidia: Look at me, I’m the scalper now.
SoDrunkRightNow4
Sheesh, I never even realized cards from three generations back have more RAM than 4000 series cards. WTF?
etfvidal
I love 💗 the 🪭 Boys saying nonsense about DLSS and “Ray tracing” and supposed AI gains that “might” happen in years on these horribly priced low and mid range cards below $500
sudden_aggression
I noticed with 4000 series that below the 4090 it’s basically just a sidegrade from the 3000 series. Up to this point, going up a generation was like going up 10 on the number scale ie, 1080 = 2070, 780 = 1070, etc.
Still it took me like 8 years to upgrade from the 780 to the 3080. Plenty of time for them to get their shit together in time for the next upgrade.
michaelbelgium
Well, they don’t care about gaming industry anymore. It’s all AI now
Legal_Lettuce6233
Nah, new NVIDIA isn’t crying Wojak. They’ve got more money than Mansa Musa. They don’t care about products that yield less than 10k per sale.
XXXVI
do you really think that GPUs can have a massive upgrade every two years forever? We’re about to hit a brick wall in terms of performance and that should be pretty obvious, hence the software solutions to the problem. Noticed GPU getting big af? Yes, that’s another reason
Pharrels
20% increase is generous, according to techpowerup’s GPU database 4060 is whopping 8% faster!
Figthing_Hussar
I don’t know if you remember but Nvidia nearly always stalled with VRAM. The weird 786Mb or 1.5GB anyone?
saxovtsmike
My 680gtx 2gb cost me 500€
my 980ti 6gb cost me 600€
my 1080ti 11gb cost me 600€
my 3080FE 10gb cost 800€
F0czek
What is this level of circlejerking and braindeadness
depatrickcie87
It’s funny how people bitched about miners mopping up the gpu supply for years, but that was trivial compared to corporate juggernauts buying up PC hardware for data centers, machine learning, etc; and nobody mentions it. The consumer PC hardware market is the way it is because it’s literally the scraps left over.
m8n9
Yeah well that’s what happens when no matter what a company does
* people keep buying from them anyway * they have short memories like goldfish * they are easy for the marketing team to manipulate * they think that just because they buy a product, they belong to a team * they fight each other over whose team is better * they shut down their brains to valid criticism in defense of their team * the company’s competitor is allergic to competing * the reviewers don’t review; they sell themselves for access to money or free stuff * when companies go out of their way to make product names and pricing as confusing as possible to hide shady behavior * when you go through a cryptopocalypse and the prices never really come back down * when you lock down almost the whole world, print money, and give it away * when the cryptopocalypse dies down, the A.I.pocalypse takes its place * when they convince everyone that less is more because A.I. magic makes up the difference * and probably some other stuff…
Still, bottom line: people keep buying anyway
untitledshot
I still remember my first nvidia gpu when I was a teenager: Nvidia TI 4200. Every 2 years, all the cards were outdated for games.
PunithAiu
i always suggest 3060 instead of 4060 for any mid range builds.. i just say dont waste money on 4000 series unless you are going for high end performance cards.
ColonGlock
I followed the 970 – 2080 – 4080 upgrade path and it was a significant jump each time. Will be skipping the 5k series.
Why_so_S3riouz
I’m rocking a 3060 with 12gb vram
Sipu_
Capitalism
MrHaxx1
People out here really complaining about their hardware not deprecating
SirHomoLiberus
But still people keep buying Nvidia cards. Hell just look at Steam charts, not even one AMD gpu in the top 10 most used.
bringbackcayde7
I am still using 1650
IgnaeonPrimus
Meanwhile, I play Elden Ring, Ghost Recon Breakpoint, TWWarhammer 3 and Starfield at 60 FPS and Star Citizen at 30 FPS on my 1660 TI, Ryzen 5 4600H, 8 gigs RAM, 6 gigs VRAM .. It’s a laptop, btw, since people think that matters for performance lol
This is kinda how innovation works, no?
Focus hard on one aspect until it’s not efficient to focus on it over other things anymore, switch focus, rinse and repeat.
Skankhunt42FortyTwo
They know the majority will buy whatever crap they throw on the market and thus they minimize spendings while maximizing earnings. If you don’t like that: Vote with your wallet.
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bruh I still have 1060 from 2017
how do they keep flopping mid range cards every year?
Same with AMD, sadly.
They cracked the code post mining craze, they being gpu makers, why sell more for less when you can sell less for more
Since they practically moved model names by +10 by introducing xx90 and stopping making xx50, it would be more fair to compare 1080 (not Ti, btw, Ti complicates comparison a lot) to 4070. And that gives 73% increase in performance:
https://preview.redd.it/tf3appayexrd1.png?width=1137&format=png&auto=webp&s=9bad57f6dcf66f05d1116dce577556bd19b3af99
But yeah, for the price of 600$ vs 300$ of 1060 (both prices are from NVidia and on release).
And yet I still see hundreds of 4060 builds, that’s depressing
Nvidia: Look at me, I’m the scalper now.
Sheesh, I never even realized cards from three generations back have more RAM than 4000 series cards. WTF?
I love 💗 the 🪭 Boys saying nonsense about DLSS and “Ray tracing” and supposed AI gains that “might” happen in years on these horribly priced low and mid range cards below $500
I noticed with 4000 series that below the 4090 it’s basically just a sidegrade from the 3000 series. Up to this point, going up a generation was like going up 10 on the number scale ie, 1080 = 2070, 780 = 1070, etc.
Still it took me like 8 years to upgrade from the 780 to the 3080. Plenty of time for them to get their shit together in time for the next upgrade.
Well, they don’t care about gaming industry anymore. It’s all AI now
Nah, new NVIDIA isn’t crying Wojak. They’ve got more money than Mansa Musa. They don’t care about products that yield less than 10k per sale.
do you really think that GPUs can have a massive upgrade every two years forever? We’re about to hit a brick wall in terms of performance and that should be pretty obvious, hence the software solutions to the problem. Noticed GPU getting big af? Yes, that’s another reason
20% increase is generous, according to techpowerup’s GPU database 4060 is whopping 8% faster!
I don’t know if you remember but Nvidia nearly always stalled with VRAM. The weird 786Mb or 1.5GB anyone?
My 680gtx 2gb cost me 500€
my 980ti 6gb cost me 600€
my 1080ti 11gb cost me 600€
my 3080FE 10gb cost 800€
What is this level of circlejerking and braindeadness
It’s funny how people bitched about miners mopping up the gpu supply for years, but that was trivial compared to corporate juggernauts buying up PC hardware for data centers, machine learning, etc; and nobody mentions it. The consumer PC hardware market is the way it is because it’s literally the scraps left over.
Yeah well that’s what happens when no matter what a company does
* people keep buying from them anyway
* they have short memories like goldfish
* they are easy for the marketing team to manipulate
* they think that just because they buy a product, they belong to a team
* they fight each other over whose team is better
* they shut down their brains to valid criticism in defense of their team
* the company’s competitor is allergic to competing
* the reviewers don’t review; they sell themselves for access to money or free stuff
* when companies go out of their way to make product names and pricing as confusing as possible to hide shady behavior
* when you go through a cryptopocalypse and the prices never really come back down
* when you lock down almost the whole world, print money, and give it away
* when the cryptopocalypse dies down, the A.I.pocalypse takes its place
* when they convince everyone that less is more because A.I. magic makes up the difference
* and probably some other stuff…
Still, bottom line: people keep buying anyway
I still remember my first nvidia gpu when I was a teenager: Nvidia TI 4200. Every 2 years, all the cards were outdated for games.
i always suggest 3060 instead of 4060 for any mid range builds.. i just say dont waste money on 4000 series unless you are going for high end performance cards.
I followed the 970 – 2080 – 4080 upgrade path and it was a significant jump each time. Will be skipping the 5k series.
I’m rocking a 3060 with 12gb vram
Capitalism
People out here really complaining about their hardware not deprecating
But still people keep buying Nvidia cards. Hell just look at Steam charts, not even one AMD gpu in the top 10 most used.
I am still using 1650
Meanwhile, I play Elden Ring, Ghost Recon Breakpoint, TWWarhammer 3 and Starfield at 60 FPS and Star Citizen at 30 FPS on my 1660 TI, Ryzen 5 4600H, 8 gigs RAM, 6 gigs VRAM .. It’s a laptop, btw, since people think that matters for performance lol
This is kinda how innovation works, no?
Focus hard on one aspect until it’s not efficient to focus on it over other things anymore, switch focus, rinse and repeat.
They know the majority will buy whatever crap they throw on the market and thus they minimize spendings while maximizing earnings.
If you don’t like that: Vote with your wallet.