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Has anyone already come up with a new +w jumpthrow bind?
Not gonna make a new post for this, but I think I’ve narrowed down my own personal “input automation” kicks down to a keyboard issue.
I tested with my current keyboard in valve DM, and the quick spammed ADADing that people have posted examples of already will get me kicked almost instantly. Plugged in my old keyboard and I can ADAD spam as much as I want without issue.
I used [this keyboard latency tester](https://www.clickspeedtester.com/keyboard-latency-test/) on a whim, and found that the newer keyboard wont go lower than ~22ms, and the results were consistently multiples of this (44ms, 66ms) or very close to multiples (sometimes 23, 45, 67ms), whereas my older keyboard had the lowest results down to 6-7 ms and overall were much more random (possible still multiples of 6-7ms, but hard to say for sure).
This leads me to believe that the scan rate on my newer keyboard is just really bad and is causing the keyboard itself to register and send the release of one key and the pressing of another at the same instant, therefore triggering the snaptap detection.
This is a $220 mechanical keyboard that is less than a year old, and has NKRO, so something similar to this might explain at least some of the other false positive reports from people who don’t have $10 membrane keyboards.
While this is probably a silly problem for a $220 keyboard to have, I still don’t think its good that the game can kick you for having a “bad” keyboard. Going from needing to buy a new keyboard if you want a small advantage, to needing to buy a new keyboard to even play the game is kinda silly…
What if Counter Strike had TF2’S old Quickplay matchmaking system?
So basically in Quickplay you used to be able to choose your own server settings, like in case of TF2, disable or enable random crits, the server host being an official server or a community server or player capacity.
Quickplay also had team scramble voting, where it basically switched players if they were too good to the other teams.
I heard that for TF2 the Quickplay system minimized cheating, unfair teams and many other issues considerably.
So, how much of Counter Strike would change if they added that?
Any solution for kicked for input automation?
We always say Valve can’t stop spinbotters / AFK / Bot Farming because if Valve detect it, people will just add a little noise to hide it.. which begs the question:
Why doesn’t rappy snappy / Snap Tap just insert random noise/overlap at times to throw off Valve’s detection, whilst allow them to still use it in clutches?
Like if you’re stopped (no keys on keyboard) then the software could do some millsecond microstrafing poorly to generate fake overlap/gaps, or if you let go of W it could insert a random S with overlap since it’s unlikely to impact movement noticably.
I’m sure keyboard manufacturers will respect Valve’s official line on the subject, but null binds or third party scripts could attempt to bypass the anti automation mechanism if they wanted to.
Bunny hopping still doesnt work. Please fix it valve
cheaters are getting worse again, aren’t they?