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i have already quit bro bcuz i am a school guy and dont have insane pc still in csgo i can get like 110 -120 in 1024*768 but in cs2 i get like 55-60 in 800*600
why the hell i will continue to play cs2 bro
bro really said features in the same sentence as cs2 lmao
I will never understand this argument, ever. We would still be playing Pong if we never made more demanding games. Games get more demanding with years as the average quality of computers increases, if you fall behind the average then.. I mean, that sucks but it's kind of on you if you can't run CS2.
1:24 asking you again, why so disrespectful to 1.6?
People forget that in 2014 the best PC available would only get you ~350fps, which isnt the case with CS2.
People complaining about CS2 are just morons who cant adapt to the new engine, it's history repeating itself. Same shit happened when CS went from 1.3 to 1.5, 1.5 to 1.6, 1.6 to Source, etc.
Get used to it.
It’s not even the performance issues that are the problem for the game. If anyone really thought they could go 20 years without upgrading a single piece of hardware on their PC are delusional. But the subtick is the problem. The hit registration and movement of the game are the issues. If they fixed those problems the game would be so much fun.
Man they could have waited till 2030 for CS2 I am not upgrading my pc. M broke. I have a 3070 get 160 FPS
CS2 feels like its still beta…….
the game is just poorly optimized, mixed in with subtick it just makes the game feel SLUGISH TO PLAY, I have like avg 300ish fps so that is with lows some maps i run in like 500 fps in some moments, and when people start going into water on ancient or anywhere it hits like below 100 that should never be the case IMO. Plus even opening up tab drops the fps to like 150 so pressing TAB HALF THE FPS, I think this has to do with it loading the steam profiles with the whole steam mini background and the animation, like we did not have that stuff in cs go, we never ASKED FOR IT, I think its a cool IDEA, but if that stuff is hurting the performance of the game idk dude, AESTHETICS and LOOKS should never be the priority in an FPS ESPORTS TITLE change my mind.
frametime is shit though, i get stutters often when someone is shooting
shame you didnt mention frametime
performance is important, but all i really care about is a new operation
"The EVERYTHING drop of CS2"! Cuz that's what valve does, drop everything they working on and never fix anything that exist! 🤦♂️
I think the performance difference is an insane argument for not playing the game. the future comes. CS players just hate change. a lot of the issues people complain about in cs2 have been or still are issue in go. Getting csgo'd was a whole ass verb for bullets just seemed to disappear or something that didnt make sense happen. For how much better cs2 looks and the new/better physics (in most cases) that we are getting, its crazy how well cs2 runs. Valve have absolutely cooked. they got this shit running as slim as they probably can. you don't need 1000fps. Now i am not saying you shouldn't criticize valve when they fuck up. Like give us the fucking operation already volvo. but cs2 performance shouldn't be where we bitch.
I literally hardly matters if the game runs on 480 FPS or 960 FPS on 240hz display.
The problem with CS2 is consistency, and frametimes. It would be playable even on 240 FPS if the game was responsive enough.
I have a NIVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060, i5-10400F @ 2.90GHz with 16 GB of RAM.
All low settings and resolution at 4:3 (1280×1024) both games.
CS:GO: I was averaging around 300-400 fps per-game (I miss that kind of performance).
CS2: I'm averaging about 100-150 fps on mirage with players and whenever utilities are popped, my fps would drop even more.
After installing process lasso, it actually helped gained back some FPS, now averaging around 160-250 fps on CS2, but it won't last for long for the future.
When even more updates occur, I know sometime in the near future I would need to upgrade my PC.
People will rather play CS 1.6 than CS2 in 2024 cuz CS2 is unplayable garbage full of cheaters and degen devs that refuse to cooperate with players to "fix" their unfinished game! 🤷♂️
I love the fact the people has been asking for CS on source 2 for YEARS and now that it's real people is crying because you need a better pc for playing it, it's like bruh. I'm not dickriding at all cs2 because it has A LOT of issues. But not being able to play cs2 on a windows xp pc like you were able to play csgo it's not a game problem. It's yours.
Who cares. Netcode is important
Stop talking to crying ppl with an pc from 2004. 300 or 500 fps is a joke.
I want good ping
100% agreed i had a stable 400fps on CSGO, i5 9600k with RTX 2070S ,32gig of ram at 3600mhz..now i cant even have a stable 240fps with my 240hz monitor ..like wtf I have never seen a game that lost so much performance after an "upgrade" For the first time in 16 years im looking for another game to play
Bro you have to benchmark while playing on a server,cs2 instability comes in handling duels and utilities….
subtick sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Performance is not a main reason I stopped playing at all. It's the subtick quality, the mini stutters, peeker's advantage, economy on 13 rounds format and more. I understand that valve plans on evolving the game but for now the game does not feel good to play. It's really sad.
Reupload??
how much fps in 1.6? source?
Valve: "No 128 tick matchmaking. It causes performance issues on lower end computers."
Also Valve: "Check out this mandatory Free Upgrade with a -44.99% fps decrease!"
Math-Cult Midwit: "Erm ackshually, the human brain cannot tell the difference between 64 and 128 tick. The math says that above 64 tick is the point of diminishing returns, if you perceive a difference then take your meds."
(I am not good at math, and I don't understand how you got the number -81.84%. When I try to calculate the percent decrease between 988.6 and 543.8, I get -44.99%. I am very confused.)
The issue I have is that I can't even run it smoothly on a 4060ti, r7 5800x & 32gb ram. Fair the game will drop in performance but not even being able to have 300+ 99% of the time is crazy for a game like cs2 in my opinion, the optimization is just terrible.
Valve nuking csgo is the main issue
optimalization is the problem how can i have with 2,5k pc have drops from 250 to 140 that's absolutely insane when you play 240hz screen. how can i have more stable fps in COD MW 3 when the mechanics and overall game is much more complex. i only hope when full version comes out there will be more stable framerate
Always Intel cpu and nvidia gpu, no problems in csgo, and now cs2 also smooth 🙂
The inconsistencies are annoying, the most demanding things are interacting with smokes and water. Why are these two things basically PC benchmarks while the rest of the game is a cakewalk in comparison?
It's incredible, you can go play battlefield 2042 and have higher FPS with more stuff going on than in a 5v5 CS2 match.
Im curious if the source 2 engine can take advantage of the new hardware to an extent that in the future high end pc's could run cs2 at higher framerates and better frametimes than csgo. But that's just me probably being overly optimistic.
and I was here blaming my pc for this shit performance lol
VALVE FIX
to sum the video up, we're fucked
lowkey i have been playing only 1.6 after they removed csgo
Of course a game made in a 10 year old engine will be harder to run than one made in a 20 year old engine, it's like racing 2 cars from completely different categories. There's no point in doing that comparison.
Also the comparison to CSGO 2014 legacy isn't fair because it's a different map. You should try porting the 2014 map into the latest CSGO to make a fair comparison.
In the end, it's like you said. Sooner or later hardware will develop, and as people upgrade, CS2 will run just as well as CSGO did at the time. Of course, the part about having to upgrade is what sucks for most people including me.
THE THING IS… 240 fps cs2 feels like 120 fps csgo no cap, many people say frames dont matter as lonf as they are above your monitor refresh rate, well i am getting 99 % of the time more than 240 and it feels terrible whilst csgo buttery smooth.. tested capping both to 240, massive diff
I think you missed an opportunity to compare older versions of CS2 to current CS2, so we could see how much fps we've lost since
I have higher fps and smoother gameplay on XDefiant than on CS2, a fast paced game with waaay better graphics that just got released a month ago. Valve have no excuse with what they did, I'm sorry. I guess you're desperately waiting for the game to improve because your job depends on it, like many others, but the average player doesn't care about that and we just got tired of waiting when there are so many other better games out there. This game deserves to die, end of an era sadly.
cs2 is garbage
i barely get sub 250fps with my 4060 with pro settings
Its time for me to stop playing a game where the developer just shit on u
1:09 the framerate is fine. i could play csgo on the same framerate no problem. The gunplay just feels inconsistent. Spraying and movement feels so awkward. Updating the graphics is fine but the gameplay is a downgrade. I would upgrade my pc right now. hell id buy a 7800X3D tomorrow but cs2 gunplay does not bring joy and neither does the weird character animations.
Pointless video. Of course csgo runs better we all know this.
Wouldve been more interesting investigating the performance drop between each update in cs2. Ive lose 60-70 fps since the start of the year
if you see this comment, i hope you think about many cs players having a medium to low end pc and not very good wifi. For these players, who probably make up a big amount of the playerbase, the game got way less playable in cs2. If you cant use the better graphics, there is no reason to have them.
If cs2 has better visuals, but the majority of the playerbase cant use them, because of performance issues, there is no reason to have them
CS2 ran solid after the first post-release update yet somehow they fucked it up, I had (and still have) GTX 980. the game felt smooth back after release but after that, update after update, they managed to fuck up the tele-communication in the servers, even with low ping this game sucks…idk what to say, ridiculous shit…