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How ONE Tweet DESTROYED a CS2 Skins Community | TDM_Heyzeus



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How a Single Tweet Destroyed a CS2 Skins Community | TDM_Heyzeus
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25 Comments

  1. @skribyskrubz9919

    4:35 the dude completely contradicts himself. How can you prove someone doesn't know what they are talking about, and prove they are intentionally manipilating someone? You literally can't do both at the same time.

  2. @Seelroy

    The community that gets excited over 5 expensive stickers being placed in default positions on a mediocre skin witch-hunted a dude over a tweet? Color me shocked.

  4. @MrSimSim.

    There are more legit ways of shitting on him, the 10x thing isn't one of them. He has done way more vids stateing garanteed profit and his "$15 howl" vid is a good example

  7. @mynameistrob

    Ddid Fano pay you to bring up old drama to save his channel? Or cs content really that slow that you had to dig this back up?

  8. @TwnkBongo

    Fano is an idiot but he isn’t a market manipulator everyone knows both of those things. Nalo lost a lot of respect from me for this.

  9. @D2attemp

    I was just watching some of Fano’s budget skin options. Didn’t even know about all this drama that went down

  12. @Mewtuber

    You missed most of the discord drama. If you were gonna make a video that’s a year late, at least cover everything and make sure it’s correct.

  13. @NaloCSGO

    I’ll probably make a video responding so I can actually show visuals but here’s a text response for the time being:

    -“Who cares if he has a patreon” that’s not the point I was making, the problem is that his patreon is/was used to gate people out of his private discord server, which I have a moral issue with, it’s legit like those normal stock investment servers that you have to pay for, it’s just a scummy way for people to give you bad advice and take your money. I don’t care if he has a patreon, I care when there is “advice” behind it. If you don’t care, that’s fine, it’s a moral issue not everyone is going to agree with.

    -“fano just got his antwerp investment rekt by paris but you yourself said not to judge people just for making a bad call” there’s a difference between a bad call and a fundamentally bad decision, if you look at the graph of antwerp, you can see not only a clear spike, but a solid plateau at that spike too, this was a humongous short term profit that anyone without an IQ diff would’ve taken, but he decided to not only hold the stickers, but encourage his viewers to do the same until they all got nuked by paris
.which was a completely avoidable event, sure it was less likely Paris would be borderless but you’re gambling at that point, not investing. I am not sure why you ignored this context and acted like paris was this random thing that no one could’ve predicted, hell I literally told my friend before paris, who had bought SH furia holos that he would get nuked if paris had good borderless stickers.

    -“He can talk about a long term investment <community post>” Sure, long term investments are cool, I advocate for them myself. The problem is the ak headshot and ak nightwish are such suboptimal “long term” choices that they arguably don’t even qualify as investments in the first place. When I said he could’ve mentioned cases or really anything like paris, I didn’t mean in his videos like you misinterpreted, I meant for that specific community post, my point was that he was trying too hard to be unique and he could’ve just made a comparison between cases.

    And yes, the ak headshot and ak nightwish are genuinely terrible choices for a long term investment, the ak headshot is particularly bad because it isn’t even the most liked red from its own case. Look at the desert strike M4 for example, although a bit of a false equivalence, even really really old case reds can end up dirt cheap and massively underperforming the market. Like you said in this video, “you can only say so much about investments as a youtuber” that is precisely why a good investment youtuber should aim for as close to OPTIMAL advice, not just any skin that might increase at least a cent.

    -“This tweet about fano fucking up a case investment is probably a better criticism than Nalo’s entire document” yeah
awkward
.heyzeus, I’m the person that first exposed the failed case investment. The screenshots used in that SkinAlerts tweet were my screenshots from my tweet 💀. You also conveniently gloss over the context behind why that screenshot is actually hilarious. He didn’t just “fuck up an investment” he bought those cases when the case update happened because he thought cases were going to skyrocket from it, if you look closely, you’ll notice the cases he bought were snakebite and fracture. Active drop cases at the time. It was a hilariously stupid decision and he cut his losses and sold everything before either of them went to RDP. That’s why the screenshots are funny and why they prove a fundamental lack of knowledge. (And side note, those screenshots were steam market prices, which means he was doing all of this with an added 15% fee loss for steam wallet funds)

    the graffiti drama

    I fully admit there was a misstep on my part here, I should’ve done more due diligence on verifying the veracity of the screenshot of his inventory, but realize that we didn’t have a year like you did to make this video, the tweet I made was basically minutes after the evidence was coming out, I put alleged in my tweet and I walked back my statement of his ownership once it was proven that he didn’t own the graffiti. I’m not sure what else you want me to do there, I admitted my mistake, bringing this up is pretty weird of you to do ngl, kinda like making this video a year later after this is all in the past, you keep talking about how the “drama continued” after the fact but now you’re literally just reigniting it. Plus, this isn’t even the first time you talked about this drama, you already made a video about it where you didn’t even read my document the first time.

    -Final point I wanna make before I make my own video about this: in your conclusion you talk about how this was done for clout farming, no, this was done because we don’t want a dunce with near zero knowledge of how investing works to tell a bunch of people bad advice. As investment YouTubers, we have to directly deal with the people getting their advice from fano, so it not only directly inhibits us, but also screws over people listening to fano. Also, Mastershiny literally has like 30k+ subs which is half of what fano has, he’s not punching up by some insane margin. I have a pretty sizeable community too and it didn’t really increase much from the fano stuff. I called him out because he’s been causing problems for me literally since I started making investment content, not for some short clout, I literally said in the document that I don’t normally confront people, this had just boiled over.

    Overall, I’m pretty disappointed by this video, I’m a big fan of you and have been since you had 30k subs, I was really happy when you followed me on twitter, as stupid as it sounds, I’ve always looked up to you. I’m disappointed that you waited a year to talk about this, used arguments you could only gain from hindsight, and glossed over much of my document and misinterpreted my points. I’m disappointed that you called Pralostas’ video good and much better than my document even though he literally DM’d me on discord to ask if he could use my document to make the video, which he did, and even gave credit to me IN THAT VIDEO which you conveniently didn’t mention. I’m disappointed that you would overlook any good intentions I might have and automatically assume I was just clout farming even though I didn’t want to be in the drama in the first place. For the 4 years leading up to this drama, it was fully self-contained in my own discord server, dealing with the people fano misguided and calling out his antics, it only went public when the whole ence holo thing exploded. There’s a reason my document is titled “some info that may be of use” because I felt the ence holo thing wasn’t even a fair criticism of him, and if people wanted a more informed opinion they could read a gist of what he was actually doing wrong in my document. You failed to mention that I literally had a whole section in my document saying the ence holo tweet was a stupid thing to call fano out for.

  18. @b3n90

    who cares, market manipulation is part of the cs econ game… i bought abandon hope patches at .30 cents and was planning on starting a manipulation campaign, but then some other dude came along and did it for me… now im sitting on an account with 1000 patches i bought for 30 cents each that are worth 22$/each

  19. @TheKirBoi

    As someone who doesn't even know how I got here, all I can think of this after watching is duped shovels.

  21. @grehgreg869

    Nooo! he can no longer sit in the discord and moderate it! it’s a total dictatorship that controls what you say in general chat. if only you could leave the server or do anything other the just send emojis to a discord channel 9 hours a day

  22. @Mousyy

    Making money on CS is the easiest shit I've ever done. You literally just wait until theres an operation, hoard the skins from the best collection when theyre still available and sit on them until they get removed and they 4 to 6 x. Literally a proven method.

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