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How a Single Tweet Destroyed a CS2 Skins Community | TDM_Heyzeus
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4:35 the dude completely contradicts himself. How can you prove someone doesn't know what they are talking about, and prove they are intentionally manipilating someone? You literally can't do both at the same time.
The community that gets excited over 5 expensive stickers being placed in default positions on a mediocre skin witch-hunted a dude over a tweet? Color me shocked.
Create a video on BUff163 recent state
There are more legit ways of shitting on him, the 10x thing isn't one of them. He has done way more vids stateing garanteed profit and his "$15 howl" vid is a good example
Felipe carvahlo mentioned đđđđđđ
NALO NEEDS a doc.
Ddid Fano pay you to bring up old drama to save his channel? Or cs content really that slow that you had to dig this back up?
Fano is an idiot but he isnât a market manipulator everyone knows both of those things. Nalo lost a lot of respect from me for this.
I was just watching some of Fanoâs budget skin options. Didnât even know about all this drama that went down
Love this video. Spot on
Nalo is a massive clown.
You missed most of the discord drama. If you were gonna make a video thatâs a year late, at least cover everything and make sure itâs correct.
Iâll probably make a video responding so I can actually show visuals but hereâs a text response for the time being:
-âWho cares if he has a patreonâ thatâs not the point I was making, the problem is that his patreon is/was used to gate people out of his private discord server, which I have a moral issue with, itâs legit like those normal stock investment servers that you have to pay for, itâs just a scummy way for people to give you bad advice and take your money. I donât care if he has a patreon, I care when there is âadviceâ behind it. If you donât care, thatâs fine, itâs a moral issue not everyone is going to agree with.
-âfano just got his antwerp investment rekt by paris but you yourself said not to judge people just for making a bad callâ thereâs a difference between a bad call and a fundamentally bad decision, if you look at the graph of antwerp, you can see not only a clear spike, but a solid plateau at that spike too, this was a humongous short term profit that anyone without an IQ diff wouldâve taken, but he decided to not only hold the stickers, but encourage his viewers to do the same until they all got nuked by parisâŠ.which was a completely avoidable event, sure it was less likely Paris would be borderless but youâre gambling at that point, not investing. I am not sure why you ignored this context and acted like paris was this random thing that no one couldâve predicted, hell I literally told my friend before paris, who had bought SH furia holos that he would get nuked if paris had good borderless stickers.
-âHe can talk about a long term investment <community post>â Sure, long term investments are cool, I advocate for them myself. The problem is the ak headshot and ak nightwish are such suboptimal âlong termâ choices that they arguably donât even qualify as investments in the first place. When I said he couldâve mentioned cases or really anything like paris, I didnât mean in his videos like you misinterpreted, I meant for that specific community post, my point was that he was trying too hard to be unique and he couldâve just made a comparison between cases.
And yes, the ak headshot and ak nightwish are genuinely terrible choices for a long term investment, the ak headshot is particularly bad because it isnât even the most liked red from its own case. Look at the desert strike M4 for example, although a bit of a false equivalence, even really really old case reds can end up dirt cheap and massively underperforming the market. Like you said in this video, âyou can only say so much about investments as a youtuberâ that is precisely why a good investment youtuber should aim for as close to OPTIMAL advice, not just any skin that might increase at least a cent.
-âThis tweet about fano fucking up a case investment is probably a better criticism than Naloâs entire documentâ yeahâŠawkwardâŠ.heyzeus, Iâm the person that first exposed the failed case investment. The screenshots used in that SkinAlerts tweet were my screenshots from my tweet đ. You also conveniently gloss over the context behind why that screenshot is actually hilarious. He didnât just âfuck up an investmentâ he bought those cases when the case update happened because he thought cases were going to skyrocket from it, if you look closely, youâll notice the cases he bought were snakebite and fracture. Active drop cases at the time. It was a hilariously stupid decision and he cut his losses and sold everything before either of them went to RDP. Thatâs why the screenshots are funny and why they prove a fundamental lack of knowledge. (And side note, those screenshots were steam market prices, which means he was doing all of this with an added 15% fee loss for steam wallet funds)
the graffiti dramaI fully admit there was a misstep on my part here, I shouldâve done more due diligence on verifying the veracity of the screenshot of his inventory, but realize that we didnât have a year like you did to make this video, the tweet I made was basically minutes after the evidence was coming out, I put alleged in my tweet and I walked back my statement of his ownership once it was proven that he didnât own the graffiti. Iâm not sure what else you want me to do there, I admitted my mistake, bringing this up is pretty weird of you to do ngl, kinda like making this video a year later after this is all in the past, you keep talking about how the âdrama continuedâ after the fact but now youâre literally just reigniting it. Plus, this isnât even the first time you talked about this drama, you already made a video about it where you didnât even read my document the first time.
-Final point I wanna make before I make my own video about this: in your conclusion you talk about how this was done for clout farming, no, this was done because we donât want a dunce with near zero knowledge of how investing works to tell a bunch of people bad advice. As investment YouTubers, we have to directly deal with the people getting their advice from fano, so it not only directly inhibits us, but also screws over people listening to fano. Also, Mastershiny literally has like 30k+ subs which is half of what fano has, heâs not punching up by some insane margin. I have a pretty sizeable community too and it didnât really increase much from the fano stuff. I called him out because heâs been causing problems for me literally since I started making investment content, not for some short clout, I literally said in the document that I donât normally confront people, this had just boiled over.
Overall, Iâm pretty disappointed by this video, Iâm a big fan of you and have been since you had 30k subs, I was really happy when you followed me on twitter, as stupid as it sounds, Iâve always looked up to you. Iâm disappointed that you waited a year to talk about this, used arguments you could only gain from hindsight, and glossed over much of my document and misinterpreted my points. Iâm disappointed that you called Pralostasâ video good and much better than my document even though he literally DMâd me on discord to ask if he could use my document to make the video, which he did, and even gave credit to me IN THAT VIDEO which you conveniently didnât mention. Iâm disappointed that you would overlook any good intentions I might have and automatically assume I was just clout farming even though I didnât want to be in the drama in the first place. For the 4 years leading up to this drama, it was fully self-contained in my own discord server, dealing with the people fano misguided and calling out his antics, it only went public when the whole ence holo thing exploded. Thereâs a reason my document is titled âsome info that may be of useâ because I felt the ence holo thing wasnât even a fair criticism of him, and if people wanted a more informed opinion they could read a gist of what he was actually doing wrong in my document. You failed to mention that I literally had a whole section in my document saying the ence holo tweet was a stupid thing to call fano out for.
Dolphins fan Felipe aka the CS discord revolutionist
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Talk about 1st world problems
who cares, market manipulation is part of the cs econ game… i bought abandon hope patches at .30 cents and was planning on starting a manipulation campaign, but then some other dude came along and did it for me… now im sitting on an account with 1000 patches i bought for 30 cents each that are worth 22$/each
As someone who doesn't even know how I got here, all I can think of this after watching is duped shovels.
Fano is secretly Heyzeus and hes just covering up his own shenanigans confirmed
Nooo! he can no longer sit in the discord and moderate it! itâs a total dictatorship that controls what you say in general chat. if only you could leave the server or do anything other the just send emojis to a discord channel 9 hours a day
Making money on CS is the easiest shit I've ever done. You literally just wait until theres an operation, hoard the skins from the best collection when theyre still available and sit on them until they get removed and they 4 to 6 x. Literally a proven method.
IDGAF PLAY SKINS CLUB GNG YOU ALRDY HAVE A PROBLEM U HAVE A WAY BETTER ROI ON SKINS CLUB PLS
ngl I cant stand FANO but I got to respect the fact that he predicted the Deagle blaze boom
People with way too much time to spare