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Lonely-Flower-2308
Build your own pc, is the best starting pc. Go to YouTube and search “Best $1000 gaming pc build”. Being able to tell someone you built your own PC and the knowledge you gain from doing it. That way if someone happens in the future you won’t be clueless on where to start. The YouTube channel “Crater” or “PC Centric” are great places to start but don’t waste your money on a pre-built.
No-Reputation72
Go with the one with the RX 7600
DeGandalf
You’ll pay for it being prebuilt and having RGB in both cases. I’ve gotten prebuilt ones before, but it’s definitely not a budget option and often even worse if you don’t go to a local shop and instead order it from a big vendor.
If you want a good budget build you should assemble it yourself. It’s not that hard and will give you massively better parts. Don’t get anything RGB or stuff with “Gaming” in the title. Get a nice case (pretty much all of them already have enough fans installed). And get a relatively cheap motherboard (<$100, but can be even cheaper) but get a quality power supply (doesn’t need much watt, but shouldn’t be a cheap manufacturer). Then you can get a graphics card at least one tier above what those prebuild ones have, while picking the same parts for the CPU and RAM and paying the same price (or pick the same parts as those and save >$150).
It only costs 700 bucks flat (euros but should pretty much be 1:1) and uses *way* higher quality parts for the power supply, the mainboard and the CPU cooler. You’d have to double check if the dimensions for the case are ok of the components (but they should be) and if the other stuff is compatible (but it should be). If you wanted you could then use a better graphics card in place of the 3060, I’ve selected a powersupply with 550W, so you can easily use something better. Using a [Radeon RX 7700 XT ](https://geizhals.de/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-7700-xt-rx-7700-xt-12g-f-oc-a3011228.html)you’d be back at your original budget and have like [30% better performance](https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/4345vs4919/GeForce-RTX-3060-12GB-vs-Radeon-RX-7700-XT).
If you buy prebuild (non custom) PCs you’ll get: A cheap powersupply, cheap and loud fans, the cheapest motherboard on the market, probably no WIFI or Win11 (it just says “ready”, this basically just means that you’ll have to buy it yourself like with a self build one).
From the ones you’ve shown I’d pick the NVIDIA one, as both have pretty much the same performance but it has 4 GB more VRAM.
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Build your own pc, is the best starting pc. Go to YouTube and search “Best $1000 gaming pc build”. Being able to tell someone you built your own PC and the knowledge you gain from doing it. That way if someone happens in the future you won’t be clueless on where to start. The YouTube channel “Crater” or “PC Centric” are great places to start but don’t waste your money on a pre-built.
Go with the one with the RX 7600
You’ll pay for it being prebuilt and having RGB in both cases. I’ve gotten prebuilt ones before, but it’s definitely not a budget option and often even worse if you don’t go to a local shop and instead order it from a big vendor.
If you want a good budget build you should assemble it yourself. It’s not that hard and will give you massively better parts. Don’t get anything RGB or stuff with “Gaming” in the title. Get a nice case (pretty much all of them already have enough fans installed). And get a relatively cheap motherboard (<$100, but can be even cheaper) but get a quality power supply (doesn’t need much watt, but shouldn’t be a cheap manufacturer). Then you can get a graphics card at least one tier above what those prebuild ones have, while picking the same parts for the CPU and RAM and paying the same price (or pick the same parts as those and save >$150).
I’ve quickly put parts for a PC similar as the first one together: [https://geizhals.de/wishlists/3915233](https://geizhals.de/wishlists/3915233)
It only costs 700 bucks flat (euros but should pretty much be 1:1) and uses *way* higher quality parts for the power supply, the mainboard and the CPU cooler. You’d have to double check if the dimensions for the case are ok of the components (but they should be) and if the other stuff is compatible (but it should be). If you wanted you could then use a better graphics card in place of the 3060, I’ve selected a powersupply with 550W, so you can easily use something better. Using a [Radeon RX 7700 XT ](https://geizhals.de/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-7700-xt-rx-7700-xt-12g-f-oc-a3011228.html)you’d be back at your original budget and have like [30% better performance](https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/4345vs4919/GeForce-RTX-3060-12GB-vs-Radeon-RX-7700-XT).
If you buy prebuild (non custom) PCs you’ll get: A cheap powersupply, cheap and loud fans, the cheapest motherboard on the market, probably no WIFI or Win11 (it just says “ready”, this basically just means that you’ll have to buy it yourself like with a self build one).
From the ones you’ve shown I’d pick the NVIDIA one, as both have pretty much the same performance but it has 4 GB more VRAM.
TL/DR:
>I was just wondering if these were any good ?
No. Probably ~$200 too much.