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0:00 – Intro
1:23 – location / aesthetics
4:34 – structure & size
7:11 – the problem with Subzero
9:36 – map acceptance
13:38 – taking risks
14:18 – B-SITE (part 1)
18:11 – lau’s thoughts
19:16 – MID
22:38 – A-SITE (part 1)
24:08 – SKILL JUMP / mid mobility
25:21 – community feedback
27:17 – shadows
28:43 – PIMP ROOM
29:19 – A-SITE (part 2)
32:14 – BUY GRENADES
33:00 – B-site (part 2)
35:07 – vertigo thoughts
36:42 – why maps get removed
37:51 – anubis / valve buying maps
40:40 – predicting pro play
42:05 – A-SITE (part 3)
44:27 – map making in CS:GO vs CS2
47:13 – custom assets
47:58 – goals in map making
49:39 – the worst case scenario
50:26 – mapping is HARD
51:47 – hammer 2 is goated
52:47 – wrapping up
53:14 – conclusion
Editing by https://twitter.com/VonVorter
41 Comments
im always hyped for operations when we get like 5 new maps, was so much fun to grind the 2-3 maps that i enjoy, sadly only one of my mates has the same mindset and enjoys new maps, most of the community really is stubborn regarding new maps.
personally i just start to play them as early as possible, this way i wont fall behind and have a hard time starting it later when other peopl know how to play it
recently my mates opened up to ancient, after how long has it been in map pool? Opening up =!= liking it, it's okay if it pops in queue/premier every once in a while
Great insights, good video lau
Ive played some 10 mans on it. I agree with Launders it may not be literally large but it just feels large. Even larger than Overpass. And i dont know if i truly liked the gameflow. But maybe after some more tries itll be better once my feel and knowledge solidify. I just want brand new maps. Old maps are cool. New maps are cooler.
Looks fuckin awesome tbh, would love to see an operation based around this
GOAT map🎉really love some Mediterranean scenes
Hey launders, how'd you get fmpone to join the map? my mates and I try to practice together but we can never join each other 🙁
we need an anticheat. that's it. no skins. no maps. ac.
thumbs up
This was really good. FMPONE is really interesting to listen to. Interesting to hear him talk about Subzero and Crown.
wtf would you show me this if I can’t play thissssss!!!
How to playtest, are there lobbies?
Don't like this at all, miss Cache so much.
Needs a lot of changes imo. Needs more quality of life improments
Fmpone new maps dont become popular because they are phisically imbalance in mind but look 4 lane
33:15 now that's HOT!
Fmpone should come back to subzero tho :/
Can we have more of content like this? and also hating on astralis.
I still think A needs mayor layout changes. It needs to be more that just a mirrowed A bombsite of Dust2.
Really interesting interview, would be amazing if you could do that with other maps some day
nice job picking his brain, always interesting to hear mappers talk about their work
Your content has been fire lately, this video especially is such good insight, and unique aswell thank you!
Still missing the og demo reviews tho. I know a certain player for whom it would be worth resurrecting it for, don't you think?! 😉
i love your content so much man, its so incredibly geared towards me lmfao
Bro what phase gamma doppler is your knife? Super clean
Also, general thoughts on how to make cobblestone a pro-ready map?
They should use the standard MM game mode to test new maps, since a lot of people are treating it as 5v5 casual now and prem for actual comp gameplay
I really liked Basalt in the CSGO Operation
Looks just like that overwatch map
Your best video in recent memory tbh. Great stuff
I think one of the problems with new maps not being accepted, is that they are often just added to the map pool without any warning. Imoa better system would be to announce that a map will be added to comp pool in X weeks. They could promote the map in lobbies and add some incentive to play the new map.
Played some 10 mans on this map, very fun but like you already touched upon in this video: b rush and hold/lurk mid to kill the ct rotators is way too strong.
that site drop on B is actually so sick
low key looks like a valorant map
Just played a game where 4 people were spamming racist bigotry from the start. Everyone in the server but me was blatantly hacking, and silliest of all, 5 people got forcekicked from too much team damage. Safe to say CS in Australia is completely dead
The map acceptance thing from the both of you was spot on. Engage was my favorite of these potential maps, but CS fans seem to just love the classics until its forced on them. I honestly think CS would feel so great with a rotating map pool, using Premier as a competitive way to play the map pool, and competitive as a way to introduce new maps and keep rotated out maps (as well as currently in the pool maps) to play.
always liked maps where retakes were doable even when in a disadvantage, let me play the whole round and not go sit in a corner!
FMPONE is our MAP GOAT 🔝
I really appreciate this vid, Lau. As someone with a huge interested in CS map design and theory, there simply isn't enough content out there talking about the process behind making them. Would absolutely love to see more in the future.
Seems nuts to me if Valve doesn't incorporate community maps in the active group in the future when they have given the community every chance to thrive with the new tools.
i got clickbaited because i thought its the greek map from overwatch
The colours in this map are just beautiful I think B site looks a little tight I guess we'll see how it plays out
this map is going to blow up my pc
Maybe not with 4 sets of double doors lmfao